No Enemies to the Right (NETTR)

This is so important. I’d love for one of the older Evangel pastors to talk more about this. Or anyone else who has insights into application/interpretation.

Last Sunday I preached Ecclesiastes 8. It ended up being a 55 minute sermon…good grief. But part of the length was because I got all turned around trying to explain the absolute command at the beginning: obey the king (principle of honouring authority), when I knew I had a good number of men and women in my congregation who had suffered greatly under tyrannical or abusive authority. Giving the principle but in a way that’s not tone-deaf to the lives of the sheep in front of me…God help us…

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Then there are those who think they’ve been under tyrannical authority, but the truth is that they just hate all authority. But I digress. :wink:

Context of the sheep matters so much. I have one young man in my charge, especially, who is quite enamored with all things CN. I’ve helped him over time to see important distinctions between the different camps of CN (@MattShiff’s recent work was a boon to these efforts), but constant attention and admonishment have been needed. I could point to him as Exhibit A concerning the downstream effects of all the CN tomfoolery. Endlessly listening to podcasts and Youtube rants. Endlessly reading books. Always keeping track of the flame wars between various celebrity pastors. Always ready to give a nuanced defense of why men like Joel Webbon ought not be disregarded, and wanting the men of the church to watch this or that video.

Much of my ministry to him centers on exhorting him to read his Bible, learn to be productive, and stop being a theological busy-body.

Recently, this young man was used greatly by the Lord to minister to an unbelieving extended family member of his. The gospel went forth in power. And yet, as soon as the family member professed faith, he (the young man) isn’t quite sure what to do. It’s like he is just itching to talk about CN stuff with him, and bring him up to speed on all these big theological debates.

And here I am with my little pee brain instructing the man to read Genesis, and read John, and talking with him about Jesus Christ, and repentance.

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That was a point I hit pretty hard. And it’s true.

But watching people wince and knowing their backstories…the sheep who have been legitimately hurt…

Preaching so the proud aren’t confirmed in their pride and the tender aren’t demoralised in their failures is the hardest part of preaching for me.

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Before this goes dead, couple things I wanted to say two days ago. First, those who follow the DJAWCHAB (don’t criticize anyone who calls himself a brother) or NEWCTB (no enemies who call themselves brothers) strategy fail not knowing Scripture. Say, for instance:

But actually, I wrote to you not to associate with any so-called brother if he is an immoral person, or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or a swindler—not even to eat with such a one. For what have I to do with judging outsiders? Do you not judge those who are within the church? But those who are outside, God judges. (1Corinthians 5:11-13)

Not simply the Corinthians, but today we fail by judging outsiders and refusing to judge those who call themselves brothers. Across history and still today, far and away the most lethal enemies of the godly and the Kingdom of God are within the church. Yet foolish young men never stop yapping against the wicked outside the church, and it’s not because they are trying to protect the sheep from them. That would be valid, but read their stuff and see how hungry they are for movement and pundit and influencer status.

What we should be doing is warning our sheep to have nothing to do with such men. Not because they get their boundaries and punditry wrong. Of course they do! Rather, because they are not interested in the things of God which fill Scripture. They are worldly, and only use Scripture to promote and justify their worldliness. Never stop warning your sheep against such men, and if some won’t listen to you, expel them. One way or another.

Second, it’s been mentioned that God’s shepherds should not use the arguments of unbelievers. Wrong. Unbelievers never stop making Scriptural arguments, so it’s impossible to teach and preach without quoting their arguments and partly endorsing them. The Apostle Paul did so several times, including at the center of all corrupt paganism of intellectuals across history, Athens. Take DEI, for instance: each of those words stands for a Biblical principle (although some would be inclined not to see any Biblical basis for the first).

Maybe you want to argue the point, saying “but that’s not what they mean by those words, and what they use those words for is evil.”

Of course, and often among the people of God how we use these words is evil, also. So man up and do the heavy lifting of exposing the abuse of words, rather than throwing around letters as a cheap and easy way of avoiding that heavy lifting while cheaply calling all the foolish young men you can over to your side. In other words, there is much good believed in and sought outside God’s people, and often unbelievers are sincere in their efforts to promote it (as well as believers often being insincere in their efforts to promote it).

In the use of teaching, preaching, and arguments, don’t be lazy and dishonest intellectually and rhetorically. Don’t take the easy path of ad populum.

Third, I find myself wondering if you men read my series on Buswell? No mention of that history when it’s so pertinent here. Complaining about black racism with no mention of the centuries of white racism engaged in by our fathers strikes me as cheap and undisciplined. Most specifically, read this by my dad back in 1956, well prior to the civil rights movement. It was a radical rebuke in a magazine founded from Tenth Presbyterian Church’s sphere of leadership. Note the contrast of Dad’s arguments to any of the crud every young man is excited about today. Note particularly Dad’s tone of humble entreaty to the consciences of Christians.

I suspect this tone and method would strike today’s millenarians as weak (which proves their weakness).

These articles were well-read outside our circles, of course. I’m not worried they didn’t have an impact. What seems obvious, though, is that those listening to the foolish young men today, and traying to make common cause with them, have no knowledge of the Christian history of our own nation—which has often been racist to the very core.

In the end, Andrew and I are happy our rebuke of the rampant NETTRism among God’s shepherds and sheep today got a rebound. Love,

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In the spirit of NETTL, what about a discussion in Hrothgar’s Hall of our challenges with our own sheep? Of our own challenges protecting them and keeping them unified? Might be helpful. Love,

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I’m repeatedly struck with the discussions about Christian Nationalism about how impractical the whole discussion is. Perhaps a detailed monograph on the history of church/state in Reformed thinking would be interesting. Perhaps teaching specific to civil magistrates in our own congregations would be called for. But Christian Nationalism, right or wrong, seems so outrageously outside of the Overton Window that it really seems more like a hobby (like being into sci fi or plane spotting or something) such to be totally unworthy of argument. Certainly hobbies can grow to take over men’s lives in a way that’s worthy of pastoral involvement and correction, but perhaps not at the level of having a detailed critique of Asimov versus Heinlein.

Believe what you like about it, it doesn’t make a lick of practical difference—Now whom are you sharing the gospel with? Are you shepherding your family well? Perhaps if we don’t make the same mistakes our recent fathers made, we can bequeath a church to our children that is at least as healthy as the one our fathers gave to us.

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Exactly what I was thinking earlier today – it’s a hobby with no practical impact on the world.

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Agreed. All the Christian movements with national political aspirations during my lifetime have seemed similar. While we may see their inanity and not want to engage them, we’re stuck with them invading the church and trying to peel off the weak and foolish for their own disciples, and thus we must fight in their protection. Young men are by nature credulous, and thus always tempted by false prophets using God’s Name and people to promote their latest brand of millenarianism.

Been reading Marsden’s Fundamentalism and American Culture (a depressing classic of historiography) and it’s filled with the bickering and splits over eschatology and politics of the first decades of twentieth century. Filled. Love,

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I’ve been wanting to share quotes from Martin Luther’s commentary on Gen 48:20 (Heb 11:21), as they pertain to much of what has been said here, but they only make sense in their full context. So here it is: Luther – Genesis 48:20. In a nutshell – he glories in the Church. Spiritual blessing/promises are far more glorious than temporal blessing/promises, and our Lord has only promised us slender temporal blessings which ought to be enough for us (Matt 6:32-33). Luther is no silver bullet to solving eschatological (really, philosophy of history) debates, but he gives food for thought, and boy does he ignite your love for the Church and the Word. This man’s faith was so full of holy violence (Matt 11:12). (Fair warning for credo-baptist brothers: you won’t like what he says about baptizing infants :wink:. And yes, he does sound sacerdotal, but no, he is not)

As for millenarianism, came across this from the Catechism of the [Roman] Catholic Church (no, I’m not converting, and neither should anyone):

The Church’s ultimate trial
675 Before Christ’s second coming the Church must pass through a final trial that will shake the faith of many believers. The persecution that accompanies her pilgrimage on earth will unveil the “mystery of iniquity” in the form of a religious deception offering men an apparent solution to their problems at the price of apostasy from the truth. The supreme religious deception is that of the Antichrist, a pseudo-messianism by which man glorifies him self in place of God and of his Messiah come in the flesh.

676 The Antichrist’s deception already begins to take shape in the world every time the claim is made to realize within history that messianic hope which can only be realized beyond history through the eschatalogical judgment. The Church has rejected even modified forms of this falsification of the kingdom to come under the name of millenarianism, especially the “intrinsically perverse” political form of a secular messianism.

677 The Church will enter the glory of the kingdom only through this final Passover, when she will follow her Lord in his death and Resurrection. The kingdom will be fulfilled, then, not by a historic triumph of the Church through a progressive ascendancy, but only by God’s victory over the final unleashing of evil, which will cause his Bride to come down from heaven. God’s triumph over the revolt of evil will take the form of the Last Judgment after the final cosmic upheaval of this passing world.

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Just excellent, that excerpt from Rome’s catechism. “Even modified forms of this falsification.” Thank you.

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  1. Lord, keep us steadfast in Thy Word;
    Curb those who fain by craft and sword
    Would wrest the Kingdom from Thy Son
    And set at naught all He hath done.

  2. Lord Jesus Christ, Thy power make known,
    For Thou art Lord of lords alone;
    Defend Thy Christendom that we
    May evermore sing praise to Thee.

  3. O Comforter of priceless worth.
    Send peace and unity on earth.
    Support us in our final strife
    And lead us out of death to life.

Martin Luther

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